
Buying herbs for buffs
Started by wino, Sep 30 2011 12:15 PM
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#1
Posted 30 September 2011 - 12:15 PM
Hello all, i'm a Shillien oracle on this server and i'm kinda disappointed in the option to simply buy buffs.
I am wondering if this is going to remain for ever or is a temporarily function? Since as a mage buffer I feel kinda useless.
Sure i can root and recharge making me still useful at grinding. But as a buffer I don't even have to give empower since for 1k you have a better buff. As a support I no longer increase the party's damage output.
Its not only empower but also vampiric rage, the two most important buffs for shillien oracle/elder. (Although I don't know if vampiric rage already existed in C1 in the first place, the spellbook doesn't seem to exist.)
If anything the buffs should be reduced to lvl 1. I hardly feel like leveling a character just to get the buffs at the same strength as one could buy for 1k. Buying windwalk lvl 2 is even cheaper then buying a haste potion to get the level 1 effect. Doesn't make much sense to me.
I am wondering if this is going to remain for ever or is a temporarily function? Since as a mage buffer I feel kinda useless.
Sure i can root and recharge making me still useful at grinding. But as a buffer I don't even have to give empower since for 1k you have a better buff. As a support I no longer increase the party's damage output.
Its not only empower but also vampiric rage, the two most important buffs for shillien oracle/elder. (Although I don't know if vampiric rage already existed in C1 in the first place, the spellbook doesn't seem to exist.)
If anything the buffs should be reduced to lvl 1. I hardly feel like leveling a character just to get the buffs at the same strength as one could buy for 1k. Buying windwalk lvl 2 is even cheaper then buying a haste potion to get the level 1 effect. Doesn't make much sense to me.
#2
Posted 30 September 2011 - 01:36 PM
1. OK for the moment to have buffs from NPCs - hope that later they will be removed (I play a prophet)
2. vampiric rage was introduced in C2 http://www.lineage2....onicle2_06.html
3. spell book should be in shop
Question is: why do we have C2 skills if we intend to play C1?
2. vampiric rage was introduced in C2 http://www.lineage2....onicle2_06.html
3. spell book should be in shop
Question is: why do we have C2 skills if we intend to play C1?
#3
Posted 30 September 2011 - 01:44 PM
QUOTE (wino @ Sep 30 2011, 01:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hello all, i'm a Shillien oracle on this server and i'm kinda disappointed in the option to simply buy buffs.
I am wondering if this is going to remain for ever or is a temporarily function? Since as a mage buffer I feel kinda useless.
Sure i can root and recharge making me still useful at grinding. But as a buffer I don't even have to give empower since for 1k you have a better buff. As a support I no longer increase the party's damage output.
Its not only empower but also vampiric rage, the two most important buffs for shillien oracle/elder. (Although I don't know if vampiric rage already existed in C1 in the first place, the spellbook doesn't seem to exist.)
If anything the buffs should be reduced to lvl 1. I hardly feel like leveling a character just to get the buffs at the same strength as one could buy for 1k. Buying windwalk lvl 2 is even cheaper then buying a haste potion to get the level 1 effect. Doesn't make much sense to me.
I am wondering if this is going to remain for ever or is a temporarily function? Since as a mage buffer I feel kinda useless.
Sure i can root and recharge making me still useful at grinding. But as a buffer I don't even have to give empower since for 1k you have a better buff. As a support I no longer increase the party's damage output.
Its not only empower but also vampiric rage, the two most important buffs for shillien oracle/elder. (Although I don't know if vampiric rage already existed in C1 in the first place, the spellbook doesn't seem to exist.)
If anything the buffs should be reduced to lvl 1. I hardly feel like leveling a character just to get the buffs at the same strength as one could buy for 1k. Buying windwalk lvl 2 is even cheaper then buying a haste potion to get the level 1 effect. Doesn't make much sense to me.
Im understand your point.
The herbs buff shop is temporal then we will replace it for a prophet level 1 buff
meanwhile a healer/buffer is very important for raid boss, or pole farmer for example.
start in a server from 0 could be hard
thats reason of buff shop
Thanks for understand
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#4
Posted 30 September 2011 - 06:24 PM
omg guys, keep on with those buff, we need it, we are news and with 20 max online you will find a good buffer? not yet in my opinion.
so keep it, and when the server got more players you can take it...
remember guys, we are playing a C1 server with 10-20 players... no 300-500 players....
so keep it, and when the server got more players you can take it...
remember guys, we are playing a C1 server with 10-20 players... no 300-500 players....
#5
Posted 01 October 2011 - 08:17 AM
Ok thx for the answer from the staff.
BTW babalina the spellbook is not in any shop. Since we do have C1 shops
@elxdark there are already plenty of support characters in our server. Some of the highest lvl players are supports.
And we are playing on a C1 server. C1 used to mean: Solo = no buffs. Thats why partys where so important. Thats what I loved about the old chronicles.
Guess i'm nothing but a mana pool for now then
(Replaces all skills on the bar with recharge)
BTW babalina the spellbook is not in any shop. Since we do have C1 shops

@elxdark there are already plenty of support characters in our server. Some of the highest lvl players are supports.
And we are playing on a C1 server. C1 used to mean: Solo = no buffs. Thats why partys where so important. Thats what I loved about the old chronicles.
Guess i'm nothing but a mana pool for now then

(Replaces all skills on the bar with recharge)
#6
Posted 01 October 2011 - 02:55 PM
yes, i understand you, but you need understand me
there are too low players to get a good pt with buffers... 
so while we get more players we can take off the buff herbs.


so while we get more players we can take off the buff herbs.

#7
Posted 05 October 2011 - 06:40 AM
i am sure that things will turn out well.
#8
Posted 06 October 2011 - 10:02 PM
Yeah, the herbs should stay... Not many support characters. Also, the herbs are basic (might, empower, wind walk, acumen, haste). There are still way more buffs available by using a buffer. Also buffers still have root, sleep, heals, recharge... U can say that herbs help buffers to manage their mp (because they dont have to use all their buffs). Also herbs are heavy, they use too much space in inventory, so someone could say, that their use is limited 
A buffer is ALWAYS useful in c1. Even PP, a pure buffer, is really helpful and wanted! 2-3 buffs from each buffer isn't a big deal...
Please don't remove herbs, it's a great addon. Actually almost everything in this server is great, it has some "luxuries", but it still needs time to advance and work with other players. The server preserves the things that make c1, enjoyable for the most people.

A buffer is ALWAYS useful in c1. Even PP, a pure buffer, is really helpful and wanted! 2-3 buffs from each buffer isn't a big deal...
Please don't remove herbs, it's a great addon. Actually almost everything in this server is great, it has some "luxuries", but it still needs time to advance and work with other players. The server preserves the things that make c1, enjoyable for the most people.
#9
Posted 07 October 2011 - 10:46 AM
QUOTE (EmmanGr @ Oct 7 2011, 01:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, the herbs should stay... Not many support characters. Also, the herbs are basic (might, empower, wind walk, acumen, haste). There are still way more buffs available by using a buffer. Also buffers still have root, sleep, heals, recharge... U can say that herbs help buffers to manage their mp (because they dont have to use all their buffs). Also herbs are heavy, they use too much space in inventory, so someone could say, that their use is limited 
A buffer is ALWAYS useful in c1. Even PP, a pure buffer, is really helpful and wanted! 2-3 buffs from each buffer isn't a big deal...
Please don't remove herbs, it's a great addon. Actually almost everything in this server is great, it has some "luxuries", but it still needs time to advance and work with other players. The server preserves the things that make c1, enjoyable for the most people.

A buffer is ALWAYS useful in c1. Even PP, a pure buffer, is really helpful and wanted! 2-3 buffs from each buffer isn't a big deal...
Please don't remove herbs, it's a great addon. Actually almost everything in this server is great, it has some "luxuries", but it still needs time to advance and work with other players. The server preserves the things that make c1, enjoyable for the most people.
nice words.
#10
Posted 02 November 2011 - 10:28 PM
I don't mind the buying herbs while the population on the server is low but i HATE the fact that vamp rage exists on the server.... vamp should be removed!!! (BTW My wife is an SE and she agrees)
#11
Posted 02 November 2011 - 11:24 PM
QUOTE (Guitarman @ Nov 2 2011, 11:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't mind the buying herbs while the population on the server is low but i HATE the fact that vamp rage exists on the server.... vamp should be removed!!! (BTW My wife is an SE and she agrees)
thanks for your opinion, other users arge about vampiric rage too. ill check about herb. (ill not remove skill)
In next days clan hall, npc helper, skills could have changes.
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