
Abusing Mobs in abandoned camp.
Started by liponpusti, Jun 23 2013 12:38 PM
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#61
Posted 24 June 2013 - 06:32 PM
Exploiting the game mechanics will only cause the failure of this server.I strongly recomend admins to take drastic measures against hackers n exploiters in order to maintain a good balance n justice spirit in the server.
#62
Posted 24 June 2013 - 07:02 PM
QUOTE (elxdark @ Jun 24 2013, 06:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
3 yes, 12 no.
Hm I see 9 yes, 14 no.
Btw, pls repeat 10 more times NO LURE because I can't get it first 3 times ):
#63
Posted 24 June 2013 - 07:12 PM
QUOTE (PorniTouDasouS @ Jun 24 2013, 09:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Exploiting the game mechanics will only cause the failure of this server.I strongly recomend admins to take drastic measures against hackers n exploiters in order to maintain a good balance n justice spirit in the server.
Do u know how the admins in offcial server fix this? They dont fix it till C2. We are here to play C1 so stop talk bullshits please! This lure is part of C1 deal with it!
#64
Posted 24 June 2013 - 07:32 PM
QUOTE (happymeal @ Jun 24 2013, 09:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do u know how the admins in offcial server fix this? They dont fix it till C2. We are here to play C1 so stop talk bullshits please! This lure is part of C1 deal with it!
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#65
Posted 24 June 2013 - 07:46 PM
Keep the language clean please. We are all here to have fun and play lineage 2. But you guys need to keep in mind if the admin decides he doesnt like something about the server and wants to change it he can! We have no say over what he does with HIS server. If you do not agree with the use of LURE then dont do it! If you dont care then LURE all you want! BUT just remember you will be doing it at your own risk. So if your fine with possibly being banned if caught then go for it! But dont complain about the admin or the servers rules when your ass is thrown in jail.
#66
Posted 24 June 2013 - 09:52 PM
Allright. If we called the Lure thing (cool/not cool) an impass, then we will reach the part were GMs will have to make a People-With-Certain-Behavior Target choice; one beetwen lamer kind of people or rule respecting people.
Myself prefer people that will not try to scam newbies selling 1 soulshot at 9999 adena; or steal my mobs.
I mean this not in a bag-people-up kind of way (not every lurer will be scammer, i believe badger is not one of those) but in a "who we attract to our server?" and "wich behavior we discourage" kind of way.
I think theres already a server for lamers
you all know wich one im talking about.
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Myself prefer people that will not try to scam newbies selling 1 soulshot at 9999 adena; or steal my mobs.
I mean this not in a bag-people-up kind of way (not every lurer will be scammer, i believe badger is not one of those) but in a "who we attract to our server?" and "wich behavior we discourage" kind of way.
I think theres already a server for lamers

Thanks
#67
Posted 24 June 2013 - 10:30 PM
In c2 3 4 5 etc they removed the lure but to compensate they made it a lot easier for lower levels below 40 to hunt , buffs, free weapons etc... If u want to balance it by removing the lure the add the newbie helper
#68
Posted 24 June 2013 - 10:33 PM
QUOTE (vaLntin @ Jun 24 2013, 11:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In c2 3 4 5 etc they removed the lure but to compensate they made it a lot easier for lower levels below 40 to hunt , buffs, free weapons etc... If u want to balance it by removing the lure the add the newbie helper
I disagree with the newbie helper
#69
Posted 24 June 2013 - 11:17 PM
Omg newbie helpers killed support classes, do you really want that?? Just go play on an easier server if you can't comply with this server's rules. The more hardcore, the better!!
#70
Posted 24 June 2013 - 11:18 PM
Me too, but that is how they balanced it. When you remove something you add something to make it more even. That is why thye removed lire in c2 and added helpers for lower level. Anyway lure is just till level 30 so it doesn't make that of a difference
#71
Posted 24 June 2013 - 11:42 PM
QUOTE (vaLntin @ Jun 24 2013, 11:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Me too, but that is how they balanced it. When you remove something you add something to make it more even. That is why thye removed lire in c2 and added helpers for lower level. Anyway lure is just till level 30 so it doesn't make that of a difference
We are talking about a failure in game mechanics and you translate it as a "help for newbies" . oh boy , seriously how can you defend something like that? I am trying to understand it , from every aspect but it seems to be so wrong .
#72
Posted 24 June 2013 - 11:42 PM
QUOTE (vaLntin @ Jun 25 2013, 01:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Me too, but that is how they balanced it. When you remove something you add something to make it more even. That is why thye removed lire in c2 and added helpers for lower level. Anyway lure is just till level 30 so it doesn't make that of a difference
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1 This not procedd: LURE = NOT ALLOWNED
2 Why
1- Not original desing of game
2- Not C1 scope fast exp is not scope of C1
Lags level 26 spent 30 hours.
Others level 20 + users spent 40 + hours
3- Players do not like it. Most of players voted NO. but someone did cheat on poll
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#73
Posted 25 June 2013 - 03:00 AM
То что не русские игроки не знают особенности с1, это их проблемы, спотов для "приманки" не так и много, на них вечно происходило сражение конфликтующих сторон и борьба за награду. Уже на протяжении более 10 лет с1 было и будет сервером куда идут ради "приманки" так как этого нет на других хрониках, перестаньте молоть чепуху и играйте. Если не хотите "приманку" то идите играть на четвертые хроники.
#74
Posted 25 June 2013 - 03:21 AM
QUOTE (Lineage2C1-Staff @ Jun 25 2013, 03:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
CHEATING DETECTED !!
Grovenata ( 109.227.255.228 )
Manadara ( 109.227.255.228 )
ArtemioAndradee ( 109.227.255.228 )
#
1 This not procedd: LURE = NOT ALLOWNED
2 Why
1- Not original desing of game
2- Not C1 scope fast exp is not scope of C1
Lags level 26 spent 30 hours.
Others level 20 + users spent 40 + hours
3- Players do not like it. Most of players voted NO. but someone did cheat on poll
#
Regards
Grovenata ( 109.227.255.228 )
Manadara ( 109.227.255.228 )
ArtemioAndradee ( 109.227.255.228 )
#
1 This not procedd: LURE = NOT ALLOWNED
2 Why
1- Not original desing of game
2- Not C1 scope fast exp is not scope of C1
Lags level 26 spent 30 hours.
Others level 20 + users spent 40 + hours
3- Players do not like it. Most of players voted NO. but someone did cheat on poll
#
Regards
Я не виноват, что нерусские игроки не умеют качаться solo руками *facepalm*
#75
Posted 25 June 2013 - 07:09 AM
FYI,
Lags just can`t use mass LURE at all, at least until he hit 40lvl and 2nd prof. HE IS AN ARCHER! He doesn`t have AoE skils.
And lure with 1 mob each time - the same lvling speed as normal killing, for an archer.
But all of you can`t see the difference between real cheats and self gaming skills, huh?
________________________
If the player got his lvl faster than other - not MUCH faster, just for an hour or two... CHEATER! Not you stupid, and can`t find ways how to lvlup faster.. He is GUILTY! Damn, isn`t it an stereotypic european thinking? Like "everyone, who is doing thins unlike the rest, is guilty, madman, and such"..
If russian players know how to play, know where to grind, and how to reach certain lvl with short time, and the others don`t - that`s not the russians` problem. Well, lure is prohibited - ok (though i can`t use it too, don`t used it on this server, and prefer soloing in classic type).
If we still lvlup faster, not using lure or such, what do other "good players" will invent next time, to prove that we`re cheaters, not they`re idiots?
Lags just can`t use mass LURE at all, at least until he hit 40lvl and 2nd prof. HE IS AN ARCHER! He doesn`t have AoE skils.
And lure with 1 mob each time - the same lvling speed as normal killing, for an archer.
But all of you can`t see the difference between real cheats and self gaming skills, huh?
________________________
If the player got his lvl faster than other - not MUCH faster, just for an hour or two... CHEATER! Not you stupid, and can`t find ways how to lvlup faster.. He is GUILTY! Damn, isn`t it an stereotypic european thinking? Like "everyone, who is doing thins unlike the rest, is guilty, madman, and such"..
If russian players know how to play, know where to grind, and how to reach certain lvl with short time, and the others don`t - that`s not the russians` problem. Well, lure is prohibited - ok (though i can`t use it too, don`t used it on this server, and prefer soloing in classic type).
If we still lvlup faster, not using lure or such, what do other "good players" will invent next time, to prove that we`re cheaters, not they`re idiots?

#76
Posted 25 June 2013 - 07:16 AM
omg russians can you play normally as everybody does?
It's very simple, did you use lure? ok fine, Don't use it anymore.
It's very simple, did you use lure? ok fine, Don't use it anymore.
#77
Posted 25 June 2013 - 07:22 AM
QUOTE (Silver @ Jun 25 2013, 08:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
FYI,
Lags just can`t use LURE at all, at least until he hit 40lvl and 2nd prof. HE IS AN ARCHER!
But all of you can`t see the difference between real cheats and self gaming skills, huh?
________________________
If the player got his lvl faster than other - not MUCH faster, just for an hour or two... CHEATER! Not you stupid, and can`t find ways how to lvlup faster.. He is GUILTY! Damn, isn`t it an stereotypic european thinking? Like "everyone, who is doing thins unlike the rest, is guilty, madman, and such"..
If russian players know how to play, know where to grind, and how to reach certain lvl with short time, and the others don`t - that`s not the russians` problem. Well, lure is prohibited - ok (though i can`t use it too, don`t used it on this server, and prefer soloing in classic type).
If we still lvlup faster, not using lure or such, what do other "good players" will invent next time, to prove that we`re cheaters, not they`re idiots?
Lags just can`t use LURE at all, at least until he hit 40lvl and 2nd prof. HE IS AN ARCHER!
But all of you can`t see the difference between real cheats and self gaming skills, huh?
________________________
If the player got his lvl faster than other - not MUCH faster, just for an hour or two... CHEATER! Not you stupid, and can`t find ways how to lvlup faster.. He is GUILTY! Damn, isn`t it an stereotypic european thinking? Like "everyone, who is doing thins unlike the rest, is guilty, madman, and such"..
If russian players know how to play, know where to grind, and how to reach certain lvl with short time, and the others don`t - that`s not the russians` problem. Well, lure is prohibited - ok (though i can`t use it too, don`t used it on this server, and prefer soloing in classic type).
If we still lvlup faster, not using lure or such, what do other "good players" will invent next time, to prove that we`re cheaters, not they`re idiots?

Silver, the problem is not that if he's using lure or not, the problem is , he's using the geodata of the game to "lure" mobs.
He can keep shooting from the climb without being attacking from ANY MOB, he can do it as many times as long he wants.
And that's trully c1? lol.
#78
Posted 25 June 2013 - 07:28 AM
QUOTE (elxdark @ Jun 25 2013, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
omg russians can you play normally as everybody does?
It's very simple, did you use lure? ok fine, Don't use it anymore.
It's very simple, did you use lure? ok fine, Don't use it anymore.
By myself, i don`t use lure at all. Btw, my character doesn`t have any AoE skills too.
Well, if "play normally" means "made 1-20 for 40+ hours", then i will answer "no". If "everybody" means "stupid one-handed crabs", then i will answer "no" again.
Guys, you can play as an "old school server", don`t bothering to lvlup fast, it`s your choice, but then gtfo from us, playing with "full strength" and leveling as fast as possible. You have your game, and we have ours. Understand?
#79
Posted 25 June 2013 - 07:31 AM
QUOTE (elxdark @ Jun 25 2013, 11:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Silver, the problem is not that if he's using lure or not, the problem is , he's using the geodata of the game to "lure" mobs.
He can keep shooting from the climb without being attacking from ANY MOB, he can do it as many times as long he wants.
And that's trully c1? lol.
He can keep shooting from the climb without being attacking from ANY MOB, he can do it as many times as long he wants.
And that's trully c1? lol.
Ok, 1st archer is "shooting from the climb".
The 2nd archer is just killing mobs, by kiting them.
Who will lvlup faster?
Answer: full equally. MP drains out at the same time.
But GM pointed at archer`s lvl, to abuse you all, how "cheating" lure can be, wooo... That means no understanding of the levelling process at all.
Again, trully "C1" isn`t the same for everyone. As I remember C1, we all used lure there. And no one told us that we`re cheaters or such. Now it`s marked as a cheat, and we`ll never seen LoA levelling at w3 with SwS as "train driver"... We lose a part of ours "trully C1", ok.
#80
Posted 25 June 2013 - 07:33 AM
QUOTE (Silver @ Jun 25 2013, 08:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
By myself, i don`t use lure at all. Btw, my character doesn`t have any AoE skills too.
Well, if "play normally" means "made 1-20 for 40+ hours", then i will answer "no". If "everybody" means "stupid one-handed crabs", then i will answer "no" again.
Guys, you can play as an "old school server", don`t bothering to lvlup fast, it`s your choice, but then gtfo from us, playing with "full strenght" and leveling as fast as possible. You have your game, and we have ours. Understand?
Well, if "play normally" means "made 1-20 for 40+ hours", then i will answer "no". If "everybody" means "stupid one-handed crabs", then i will answer "no" again.
Guys, you can play as an "old school server", don`t bothering to lvlup fast, it`s your choice, but then gtfo from us, playing with "full strenght" and leveling as fast as possible. You have your game, and we have ours. Understand?
Read my last reply.
Yeah I respect that, if you have fun with that ok, I just don't care.
But I get angry when you say, it is fine to kill mobs above a climb or behind a wall while they can't touch you, if that is lure for you, then you have a problem.
I don't care if you guys lvl up faster than us, I just want to say you're using an old exploit, that "lure" is not allowed, you can't go and take as many mobs as you want and don't get a fucking hit from them while you kill them with ease.(unless you're in party with and ol, wl and mages) are you in one? I don't think so.
Do you understand now?
I go off.
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