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[somesword]

Lets ask some oppinions maybe gm would consider this.
I encountered buffer problems, I am a Shilien elder and have a lot of problems finding party since i have lvl 1 buffs and scrolls are lvl 3.
No one needs me.

By the way, i would like to see vampyric rage skill implemented, and vampyric herb removed or altered

[Worrent]

i think herbs should over lap lower level buffs but not kick off the real buff if they are a higher level effect. As for the scrolls i think the scrolls are fine. im sorry to hear you cant find a party but not everyone uses scrolls because alot of the people who play here cant figure out how they work, dont know they are even there, or dont know what they are for. So to say you cant get a party to me sounds like you might be asking the wrong people =/ plus you can always be used as a healer/recharge so if you cant find a party i think you might wanna try harder!

[ricotero]

I'm all in for supporting buffers so... remove them!!! Let there be lots of support chars!

About the skills, it's another C1 thing, the skills are sub-optimal.

Overlords don't even have Soul Guard (defense toggle), Warcryers don't have Chant of Predator (focus) or Chant of Vampire (Vamp. rage didn't exist!), nukers have the imba sleep, and the list goes on and on!!

To be honest I would like C2 skills at least, and many other features from other chronicles, like C5 clan structure. But this is a C1 server and I'm still extremely happy and grateful that many of the "easy-game" things that came with the updates are non-existant!!

[Worrent]

the problem is theres not enough people to have a good amount of buffers / support classes. everyones either a dps or a crafter.

[Snick]

I honestly vote to get rid of the l2day scrolls but keep the herbs. And I would also VERY much like to see Vamp Rage implemented somehow, either that or the Vamp Rage herb removed completely.

[c0rm4c]

-i would remove scrolls and let the herbs works properly.. dont kick off the buffs.
vamp would be nice..

[badger]

NOPE

One (or two, or several) miserable live buffer - it's not a reason to remove scrolls.
Because creating buffers makes sens when there are a lot of players. And if we remove scrolls A LOT of players will not have any possibility to get buff - neither with scrolls nor from buffers.
When we will have online 200+ it will be time to review this decision, but not now.

[Lineage2C1-Staff]

Guys im not sure if this will have 300 players one Day. actually Hard times to L2 all servers have the same situation.
So we must asume it. Also remember server matchword: 1 person = 1 player. with this event some users can mantain continious use of Empower , and other especifics buffs.


About custom players must read carefully:
http://forum.lineage...?act=boardrules

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-Custom: all custom or out of C1 stuff can be changed without warning
-Over-Rate: any stuff ingame that is over rated. this mean give many adena , or exp. can be inmediatly fixed / changed
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The fact is that one class is totally fucked with those scrolls and was not our intenttion by adding those seed event

[gioz]

What? You want to lose the remaining online? It is better to edit them geodata.

[miguelitito]

[Lamissa]

Id say keep scrolls. There are 5 supports on whole server. 3 of them offline 1 afk and 1 is playing.So for 1 support removing scrolls... We are just not enough people to go for such a big step. Ppl will get frustrated and leave even faster then^^... just my opinion

[gioz]

Generally understand the position of the administration over the bafery on a doualbox. Doualbox once not replace live Support. But do not just live tech support!

[gioz]

All this is frustrating.

[somesword]

I see that prices increased to 44-47 seeds, now its fine
its impossible to be on constant scrolls

[gioz]

Want stability. spontaneous actions of the administration are puzzling. A reputation for being very hard to earn and easy to lose. Think about it.

[Worrent]

I must say im not a huge fan of the cost increase. given that not every plant works and on top of that not every plant yields seeds of harvest and when they do it gives 16 seeds. I have talked to a few people in game who state that they get about 100 seeds of harvest a day if they just do that all day. that means in a day you could earn 2 buff scrolls. I think this change in price is a little extreme given that the scrolls only last an hour. Also its not like seeds of harvest are running rampit in the servers economy. you hardly ever see any for sale. so having a lower price on scrolls wasnt hurting anything cept 1 or 2 lvl 30 buffers..

[Silver]

Agreed with Worrent, almost at every point.

BTW, look at the poll in the topic, most ppl voted "not to change anything". I think, that people will leave sooner or later, if the price remains so high.

Now, there are no enough buffers 40+ in game. Even more, there are only two or three hi-lvl supports in the whole server at all. The problem is not in the buff scrolls, it`s in the online and population. I raised a support class myself, much more than just 40+ now... But no ppl to party with, even in our clan.

So, removing the scrolls (today`s prices just equals to fully removal of them) will not make supports to jump out of nowhere, ready to partying with you all night, i`m sure. And no dualbox leads to "no-exping days", so when "no-exping days" become longer and longer - a man just decides to leave to a more popular server. Simple as that.

Please, think about it.

[Lineage2C1-Staff]

This Seed event is tipical custom that already comed installed by smeli. but i didnt even focus on it.

Scroll buffs for 4 seeds = npcbuffer . so awser me , why npcbuffer on C1 ?

But players do not understand . they say only 1 or 2 buffers in server so is not problem total fuck them. (2 buffers in server.. hard to believe maybe they do not know count well ? )
Anyway this is not to help buffers. players say wizards must have continious Empower. and warriors Focus + megaspeed. if no they cant farm . i like users logic


Is my fault due rush on opening i did not had time to remove every custom by default on server.
My apologies

[Worrent]

that is a good point silver made. even tho there are support classes in the game it is hard to find a party in general! people tend to solo more atm. i know for me i dont see the point in partying most of the time because the exp isnt worth it. it is actually faster to level alone then in a group. and atm with haste 2 and WW2 pots from medals + herbs it makes things much easier to just solo. i would suggest putting vamperic rage and change of vampire into the game but removing buff scrolls AND herbs entirely. this forces people to use buffers while still allowing them to have haste 2 WW 2 and acumen 3 potions. because if there are no herbs or buff scrolls, leveling in a group with buffers/ support classes would become faster even with exp decrease. Party = buffers and faster leveling/killing. No party = ok solo exp but slower killing due to no buffs (cept self buffs) this would cause more to party and more to create support classes instead of DD's and crafters.

[Silver]

Well, i don`t think that those 1-2 supports will stay on server, when all DD`s leave it ^^

That "crazy gardener" event is a bit unbalanced, comparing to standart l2day event. If we could have the classic l2day instead of that flower madness, that will be much more appreciated by the players, imho. Scrolls are given there by random, so it will make our market a little stronger, too (fighters do not need mage scrolls, so they will trade it or sell it, etc).

Or just lower the price for each scroll a bit, for example, 20-25 seeds for one will be good enough, as i see it.

By myself, i will stay here at least while the rest of my clan stays on server (we`ve started with 20+ ppl, now there ane only 5-7 active players left). I can plan my exping with or without buff, scrolls, etc. But i don`t think there are so much players here that can think the same, they`d rather leave to some c3-c4 server with good population.