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[mijati]

hi all

well i dont know exactly where to start
we found the server 2 days ago and for me i can say i was suprised and amazed... a C1 server.. thats imba ... realy ...
so i stopped thinking and just startet here

but i have to say iam verry disapointed....

what i found here is a mix from c4,interlude,custom shit and c1 .....

ok why noone plays here :
no dualboxing ..... at last ppl need 1 boxed buffer ..noone will play an aktive PP or healer on a server where max 20 ppl are playing
manor manager in towns ,where u can get buff scrolls, and sell mats and can BUY mats ....thats bullsh1t ...
no advertisement
custom modifications to classes in case about skills they never had in C1
dropp and spoil rate on a low rate server .....( about this i say later some words )

all this is a reason why ppl dont stay here or even bother themself to start here .....
noone will play on a low rate server, without a buffer and a way to be able to kill and lvl on a propper way ....
noone will kill 3 mobs without shots and pots ( cuz he cant afford anything , not even heal pots ) and than sit down 10 mins to rest ...
the custom modifications in case about the dgger are imba insane...... there wont be pvpv what last longer than 20 sec overall ,where a dagger is able to use his skills again in pvp .....

one more reason why ppl leave are the fact that mbs here are completly wrong ....till now i found 7 different mob types who are CASTING !!!!!! and have magic resist.. for example ...
for a C1 server a bad nogo ....
not even 1 damn mob was casting in C1 ...for sure not a golem with his wind strike in cruma tower .. for sure not magical weaver in a dwarf town ....

u could have more than 700 ppl playing here.. cuz after almost 10 years of l2.. ppl are crying about a true C1 server .....true C1 means true pvp not the lame CP pots klicking sh1t.....
not the whole bunch of animation skills u have in interlude ....
but its imba sad... realy realy sad.. that always a admin/Gm.. start with custom modifikations and sh1it on there server....no matter what chronicle they have and use ....
and this fact is sad .. u have a small treasure here with aa C1 server .....and u started already to fuck it up ....

i know what iam talking about .. iam playing L2 since 2004 and beta release..i played on a lot of free server ,even on offi server .. my first offi server was hindemith ..my last was short before "GOD" release ....
even in case about free server ....all the years iam always playing L2 again on a free server.. i seen a lot of them growing and disapiearing ....
so plz take my advise.. and stop with the custom sh1t ....

about the spoil i mentioned above :

u should change the spoil ammount to at last x3 too when u raise the spoil chance to x5 ....why ?
when u spoil a mob .. there are 3 items in the spoil list .....
the chance just calculate whet kind of these 3 items u get ....
but the fact that u get only ONE items in spoil is a bit stupid .....
u get one animal bone .. or 1 animal skin or 1 iron ore ....thats even a lower ammount as on official C1 server .. even there u got back in C1 times 1 till 3 animal skins in a spoil ....
on higher lvl spoils, like SOP the ONE ammount is ok ..
plz take a look into it ....

p.s. dont get me wrong iam not flaming or blaming, what i say here is just my opinion

[Gorim]

I'm OK with all what you said. Especially the spoil's rate part.

I play as spoiler and there is a HUGE problem here. If you want few people create a private server economy, you should increase drop spoil rates. Like what you noticed, x5 currently spoil drop rate is "chance" to have an item, not amount of items you'll obtain. It creates stupid situations like,

situation A : a mob gives you randomly 3-10 animal bones in normal drop when,
situation B : others will only give 1 animal mob when they are spoiled...

in "normal" situations, or to my mind, spoil drops must be more interesant than normal drops...

But except that point, I take a lot of fun here compared to all the shitty private servers (and I don't even mentioned the current-official server which is just a shame...) I used to play in the past.

I think admin needs help to make this server a really good server. Currently, people only critize his work or say what's wrong. Nobody says what's cool, what's OK...

Maybe it's only a lack of time ? Maybe we can help, be actors instead of just being spectators ?

[Lineage2C1-Staff]

u should change the spoil ammount to at last x3 too when u raise the spoil chance to x5 ....why ?
Noob , why spoil ammount must be X3 ? . you dont know that spoil ammount can not be changed on this pack , maybe you dont know how this pack work ???

No advertise
http://forum.lineage...?showtopic=1244

u could have more than 700 ppl playing here
We managed prelude , C1 since 2011 . but you say we can get 700 sure youre an expert of C1

true C1 means true pvp not the lame CP pots klicking sh1t.....
do we have cp potions ?

custom modifications to classes in case about skills they never had in C1
Those modifications do not affect in game . so before talk think , check youserlf
http://forum.lineage...p?showtopic=826

manor manager in towns ,where u can get buff scrolls, and sell mats and can BUY mats ....thats bullsh1t ...
Yes is bullshit , but players like it. the only buff scroll you can get by normal price is: hastle , shield , and might.
coz warriors need a little of buff at least.

The fact is that C1 is so hard and many players can't deal with it. thats the real sense of we do not have 700 online. also many l2servers , many multiplayer games. L2 actually is death only a few servers have REAL online more than 100.

But players can't see real fact so they will say its admin fault. or is because no dualbox , or because of anythink that they do not agree or dont like

BTW: my next action about forum will be control each Topic. because ? .Recently many Cry , Flame , negativity that damage image of server

[mijati]

u should change the spoil ammount to at last x3 too when u raise the spoil chance to x5 ....why ?
Noob , why spoil ammount must be X3 ? . you dont know that spoil ammount can not be changed on this pack , maybe you dont know how this pack work ???

No advertise
http://forum.lineage...?showtopic=1244

u could have more than 700 ppl playing here
We managed prelude , C1 since 2011 . but you say we can get 700 sure youre an expert of C1

true C1 means true pvp not the lame CP pots klicking sh1t.....
do we have cp potions ?

custom modifications to classes in case about skills they never had in C1
Those modifications do not affect in game . so before talk think , check youserlf
http://forum.lineage...p?showtopic=826

manor manager in towns ,where u can get buff scrolls, and sell mats and can BUY mats ....thats bullsh1t ...
Yes is bullshit , but players like it. the only buff scroll you can get by normal price is: hastle , shield , and might.
coz warriors need a little of buff at least.

The fact is that C1 is so hard and many players can't deal with it. thats the real sense of we do not have 700 online. also many l2servers , many multiplayer games. L2 actually is death only a few servers have REAL online more than 100.

But players can't see real fact so they will say its admin fault. or is because no dualbox , or because of anythink that they do not agree or dont like

BTW: my next action about forum will be control each Topic. because ? .Recently many Cry , Flame , negativity that damage image of server

well for me there is nothing more to say.. cuz it will be a hugh waist of time ....
from your answers , and the way u answer i already see that ....
so keep on going with it.. and in 3 or 4 months we talk again about it ....
if u cant take critic.... than oh well....what ever ....
u didnt even understood my point with the manor manager ....
how u can have a working economy on a server ..when u can BUY mats, whenever u want from an NPC ??? instead of having player shop selling and buying them ?
and btw .. no dualboxing on a server where arround 20 aktive ppl play is a fail.. thats a fact ....
the image of the server is comming from the admin behaviour ....
not from a topic where ppl talk about ideas,critik .....

and yeah u can have 700+ ppl ...
the fact iam playing here or trying to talk in this topic is to help u, make some suggestions, or even trying to "show" u something ...

but the factg u called me noob ....
and acting like that.. just proofed that u think, all waht u do is correct .....


from my side now all is said .... have fun

[mithranduil]

i love the GM effort and all but i have to agree to mijati critic about the shops,i think every shop would be eliminated

Eventmedals:this is still ok but is something that shhould be temporary like a month or 2 then be left

Buff scroll: we are a low rate server not a midlle rate pvp,this shop should be deleted asap,of course people like it,they can play some warrior and some wiz and get scroll, there is no point in making a buffer or worst making a party if more people can solo with scrolls

Manor Manager: this is the thing that kills economy,noone sell amats,making a spoiler is for half part useless. If u delete it will see many more dorf in town selling mats and will be more activityalso peopel with less money wills ell mats and gain some adena,even if we'll loose some pople is good to raise more. this is not a true c1 server with these kind of events.

[Lineage2C1-Staff]

well for me there is nothing more to say.. cuz it will be a hugh waist of time ....
from your answers , and the way u answer i already see that ....
so keep on going with it.. and in 3 or 4 months we talk again about it ....
if u cant take critic.... than oh well....what ever ....
u didnt even understood my point with the manor manager ....
how u can have a working economy on a server ..when u can BUY mats, whenever u want from an NPC ??? instead of having player shop selling and buying them ?
and btw .. no dualboxing on a server where arround 20 aktive ppl play is a fail.. thats a fact ....
the image of the server is comming from the admin behaviour ....
not from a topic where ppl talk about ideas,critik .....

and yeah u can have 700+ ppl ...
the fact iam playing here or trying to talk in this topic is to help u, make some suggestions, or even trying to "show" u something ...

but the factg u called me noob ....
and acting like that.. just proofed that u think, all waht u do is correct .....


from my side now all is said .... have fun

Because you are a noob that talk without know nothing.

I do not want spoil x1 but i can't change it . its simple if you understand server script.

You say that i do not advertise ? thats a offense to me

http://forum.lineage...?showtopic=1244


And now . if you do not like get out of here i do not need your help unless you know c++ (or knowledge of source of C1) who you think u are ? .

u didnt even understood my point with the manor manager ....

I understand it. one think is give opinion other is come here and talk like you know everythink. or like i need your help

[mijati]

Because you are a noob that talk without know nothing.

I do not want spoil x1 but i can't change it . its simple if you understand server script.

You say that i do not advertise ? thats a offense to me

http://forum.lineage...?showtopic=1244


And now . if you do not like get out of here i do not need your help unless you know c++ (or knowledge of source of C1) who you think u are ? .

u didnt even understood my point with the manor manager ....

I understand it. one think is give opinion other is come here and talk like you know everythink. or like i need your help

end of diskusion.. i wont get down to this lvl
for the fact u accused and flamed me twice now, while i didnt flamed or blamed u even 1 time ...

[PurpleSwaN]

FUCK YOU

[mijati]

FUCK YOU

@purple .....

well i dont know what happend before whipe.. and thats not my buissnes.. and your attitude.. is not a propper way to diskuss something ..

[Lineage2C1-Staff]

@purple .....

well i dont know what happend before whipe.. and thats not my buissnes.. and your attitude.. is not a propper way to diskuss something ..

Thats what those type of topic help server.

Only flood , negativity

Due many topics with stupid polls , and flood. Forum / General will be closed.

[Hexadijus]

@purple .....

well i dont know what happend before whipe.. and thats not my buissnes.. and your attitude.. is not a propper way to diskuss something ..

Then stop discussing and gtfo, if it's so bad here, why are you even playing ? Only shittin on server and crying that admin fuckin' with ya.

[Lineage2C1-Staff]

Then stop discussing and gtfo, if it's so bad here, why are you even playing ? Only shittin on server and crying that admin fuckin' with ya.

Yes the funny part is that 70% of cryers , or flooders in forum not even play. you can see how player can get so obsesed with GM

what i did ? recently i even have time to enter.

Maybe mijati do not deserve my bad modals but i still do not like his actitude aswell. many flood in forum recently piss me off.

sorry mijati.

[mijati]

sorry for doubble/empty post

[mijati]

Yes the funny part is that 70% of cryers , or flooders in forum even play. you can see how player can get so obsesed with GM

what i did ? recently i even have time to enter.

Maybe mijati do not deserve my bad modals but i still do not like his actitude aswell. many flood in forum recently piss me off.

sorry mijati.

well iam sorry too if u got me wrong. it was not my intention to "cry or flame and blame " u for anything .. its the opposite.. i sayed it twince i like it to play here
and i just make some suggestions ..
maybe i took some wrong words too
iam sorry too than....

i was searching for years for a good C1 server .....and u think i just play here without to try to suggest something ?or try to improve it ? ...
i think a good community should as wwell have the "reason" to improve a server ....and keep it alive ....
but that cant be done only with playing

so i say sorry again, and hope u didnt got me wrong ....

[Hexadijus]

well iam sorry too if u got me wrong. it was not my intention to "cry or flame and blame " u for anything .. its the opposite.. i sayed it twince i like it to play here
and i just make some suggestions ..
maybe i took some wrong words too
iam sorry too than....

i was searching for years for a good C1 server .....and u think i just play here without to try to suggest something ?or try to improve it ? ...
i think a good community should as wwell have the "reason" to improve a server ....and keep it alive ....
but that cant be done only with playing

so i say sorry again, and hope u didnt got me wrong ....

Another bigger "improvement" wil require another wipe. I don't think people are willing to do it already.

[Lineage2C1-Staff]

I will repply again with more calm:

1) Spoil : i can't change ammount if i do spoil get buged. the version stolen from ncsoft of C1 was early one from korea maybe. can be a little different from official that you played (maybe im wrong)

2) About manormanger: its custom added by developer of pack . Im agree in that sell/buy mats option could not help server.
about buff scroll its more or less ok now. the prices are really hight except for a few basic buffs as: hastle , might , shield.
its a help to warriors. this combined with herbs its enought to farm without any dualbox.

3) Doing drastically changes do not help

the custom modifications in case about the dgger are imba insane......
The dagger do not have any custom

[Gorim]

Thank you for your answers ! It's nice to see you take your time to reply

[smeli]

how u can have a working economy on a server ..when u can BUY mats, whenever u want from an NPC ??? instead of having player shop selling and buying them ?

as I know you can buy only those mats whose were sold to those manor-mangers by other players
this is great feature - you sell some mats to npc and npc can sell it to other players
if no one sell mats to manor-managers, no one will be able to buy them

in original c1 only option is to sell mats to the general shops and mats gone forever, you cannot get them back

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those new features like this were developed after a many years of interaction with players, discussions, problems investigations
when you will play c1 for 5 years your suggestions will be the same as other players suggested

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2admin - do not be angry to players whose do not understand whats really going on
that is because official server solving problems just one way - pushing things to the shops since c2.
and almost all privates following this scheme. so when player sees that he can buy item he does not understand that without other player selling this item to npc he will not able to buy it
NO OTHER SERVER (private or official) IN THE WORLD HAVE SUCH FEATURE
and player cannot imagine that

[mijati]

as I know you can buy only those mats whose were sold to those manor-mangers by other players
this is gerat feature - you sell some mats to npc and npc can sell it to other players
if no one sell mats to manor-managers, no one will be able to buy them

in original c1 only option is to sell mats to the general shops and mats gone forever, you cannot get them back

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those new features like this were developed after a many years of interaction with players, discussions, problems investigations
when you will play c1 for 5 years your suggestions will be the same as other players suggested

well the only point if this " feature " is to keep a low economy ....

new ppl will spoil and sell ( EX: a bones ) for 1k each ......
to make some adena for staring gear and items ....
noone will buy them cuz u can buy mats from an npc for 750 adena .....
if u sell them to the npc u get 300 adena for bones ( example )
and not 1k from a player ....
as long as u can buy mats from an npc .. u wont see a lot of ppl spoiling them and selling them ....
...why going to spoil ? if i can buy them from a npc ?^^

[Sarevock]

well the only point if this " feature " is to keep a low economy ....

new ppl will spoil and sell ( EX: a bones ) for 1k each ......
to make some adena for staring gear and items ....
noone will buy them cuz u can buy mats from an npc for 750 adena .....
if u sell them to the npc u get 300 adena for bones ( example )
and not 1k from a player ....
as long as u can buy mats from an npc .. u wont see a lot of ppl spoiling them and selling them ....
...why going to spoil ? if i can buy them from a npc ?^^

all the mat are not at NPC