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[rio]

Well i like the c1 server a lot, no doubt! but in my opinion something has to change. People are leaving the server and not many new are coming. I know c1 is a bit tough to play. People right now, which are playing on the servers are pretty happy with the rates and all around. But think about all the other people who doesnt wanna come cause it takes too long to level up to 75. L2 c1 has not many buffs or strong equipment u can buy from luxury. This c1 8x server feels like a 3x c5 server. C1 is from the year 2003 and people doesnt wanna spent tons of time for a game that is 10 years old. I believe if the server population will increase (maybe slowly) if the rates will be a bit higher. People will be happier with faster levling and they know they will come faster to pvp. Also the most people will creat more charackters what means again more different classes on the server = easier to find some random groups what results again in more pvp and play time. Dont get me wrong the server itself is great but the balance and stuff the gm and developers are doing is just based on the people what are playing RIGHT NOW! not for potential players that could come. Id say give it a try and push the rates to 12x or so also bring back the premium for at least 4 combat hours or so. Just to make the server more tasty for new player. If this will work the server has it owns publicity and more and more will follow.

[MrLuke]

Well i like the c1 server a lot, no doubt! but in my opinion something has to change. People are leaving the server and not many new are coming. I know c1 is a bit tough to play. People right now, which are playing on the servers are pretty happy with the rates and all around. But think about all the other people who doesnt wanna come cause it takes too long to level up to 75. L2 c1 has not many buffs or strong equipment u can buy from luxury. This c1 8x server feels like a 3x c5 server. C1 is from the year 2003 and people doesnt wanna spent tons of time for a game that is 10 years old. I believe if the server population will increase (maybe slowly) if the rates will be a bit higher. People will be happier with faster levling and they know they will come faster to pvp. Also the most people will creat more charackters what means again more different classes on the server = easier to find some random groups what results again in more pvp and play time. Dont get me wrong the server itself is great but the balance and stuff the gm and developers are doing is just based on the people what are playing RIGHT NOW! not for potential players that could come. Id say give it a try and push the rates to 12x or so also bring back the premium for at least 4 combat hours or so. Just to make the server more tasty for new player. If this will work the server has it owns publicity and more and more will follow.

Thanks for your view.

We have right now skills till level 58, meaning a level 62 and a level 70 can pvp equale, if the level 62 lands a stun and the lvl 70 dosn't, the matter of hp different goes away abd the lower level can win.

I think its good you try ask for adjustment or add your view, but really I hope admin wont listen and also the discussion he is having right now about dual box, npc buffer so on, perhaps its just better to keep it as it is?

Our online must be incrasing, we see new clans forming and im sure they will find new players they can invite.

[Lineage2C1-Staff]

1) Well i like the c1 server a lot, no doubt! but in my opinion something has to change. People are leaving the server
2) But think about all the other people who doesnt wanna come cause it takes too long to level up to 75.
3) L2 c1 has not many buffs or strong equipment u can buy from luxury.

Hi , and thanks for ur interest on L2 c1 world and your sugestions.

1) Nobody is leaving , population its ok. well i never saw you before and now you arrive here and talk like know everythink about this server
2) I dont care about those people who want fast exp L2 isn't a race to get lvl 75 people should play relaxed and as Luke told you here you can wrok with level 58. x12 is not the proyect i want to have. In fact i think would be better x4
3) This dont have many buffs ? maybe you did saw the Npc buffer ?

[Fen]

Although you got some valid arguments I have to say that personally i would wonder about leaving server if rates went over x10. Increasing rates isnt correct method of helping new players.

Definitely you got right that start is very hard. For players a little bit less experience its even harder, and many can have this frustrating feeling that all the income they generate is spent on shots without any real method for getting gold. With that said i would like to see lower price for soulshot no grade. In my opinion 8 is waaaay to high and 4-5 would be high enough. It obviously wont influence server economy nor pvp balance so i belive its a safe and positive adjustment that could be made.

Anyway going back to discussion, changing of rates wont help us. Problem isnt lvling speed but obtaining gear so if you increase all rates by 4 you will level faster but sitll you will be lacking gear at your current level. If any change was made to fix this problem that gms would have to modify rates so that they would vary. Instead of flat x8 on everything drop would have to be higher than experience, but in my opinion its not the reason why we got low online.

Online is a tricky aspect of server because if you have high online, its working positive on itself and increase your online even harder. If you got low online its opposite.

What could help our online:

1. Easier START. No need to change whole server economy or drops, just the start should be easier. With that said i would lower ss no grade shots price by half. Adding direct teleports to farm grounds would be nice. If you dont want to influence on high farm zones pvp skirmishes, make those teleports at least to lowbie zones 1-35 lvl.

2. Events. This part is tricky because event rewards cannot be to high since they will discourage older players or those who cant log into game during event. Because of that i would like to see pvp events in pvp arena: 1v1, 3v3, 9v9.

1v1, 3v3 are obvious

For 9v9 i would like to see formula used on official servers. You start the fight with regulard 9v9 on buffs that yoru party can cast. After that you play 3x 3v3, every team forms 3 man squads to fight, when 1 squad dies, next in line enemy squad comes into play, till last squad standing. Squad starts with buffs that party is able to cast but during those fights buffers cannot cast any skills untill they are currently participating in the fight (so no redances/resongs). Last part of this pvp formula would five fights 1v1. Each team would chose which heroes are going to fight buff them, and start 1v1, when 1 guy dies second from him teams enter the fight, and etc untill last man stands.

Obviously team that would win 2 out of 3 pvp formulas above would win the tournament fight.

PvP events should be announcend on forum and maybe in wellcome message when you log to server.

Prices: as i said before prices shouldnt include adena/mats/items in my opinion. 1 cool reward (not sure if its possible) would be to give hero glow to every memeber of team that won tournament. For winning players could receive some buffs as well, for example 20% increase of sell price at npcs, 2h songs/dances, 5h pp buffs, 2x mp regen, free npc teleports, vyvern for period of time, unlimited time strider etc. Those rewarsd should be high enough to encourage players to come but not big enough to influence economy and pvp balance. And theres always that pride factor

[smeli]

the problems is that l2 real game content on C4+ are on levels 75+, and in GOD 95+
players trying to get this content fast

in c1 content is on 58 level
but those c4+ players do not know how it can be that content is not on level cap


anyway talking of rates is nonsense
cause on x1 rates in GOD you can reach 75 level in a 1 day
but this tradition of talking of rates are come from old c1 times when x1 meant x1 even in Africa

[viking]

I know c1 is a bit tough to play.
bla bla bla
x8 is tough to play

Man, as I can see, you never tried to play x1.
Lineage 2 chronicle 1 is a game about full groups of no-grade equipped players conquering elven ruins. It's a game about crafting a Willow Staff. It is a world, where you can use shots only if you are at a siege or you are a dwarf, and where B grade is a fucking end-game content et cetera.

And it is definitely not tough when everybody can buy top D equip - BEFORE he reaches lvl 40, when there is an NPC that gives you a buffs and even soulshots are automated...

[poolvaso]

l2 c1 old school
hard play is the esence
love c1, love this server and quiet play

[rio]

Hi , and thanks for ur interest on L2 c1 world and your sugestions.

1) Nobody is leaving , population its ok. well i never saw you before and now you arrive here and talk like know everythink about this server

I just created a forum account, ofc u never saw me. Ingame i have a few lvl 50 and 50 + chars.

Man, as I can see, you never tried to play x1.
Lineage 2 chronicle 1 is a game about full groups of no-grade equipped players conquering elven ruins. It's a game about crafting a Willow Staff. It is a world, where you can use shots only if you are at a siege or you are a dwarf, and where B grade is a fucking end-game content et cetera.

And it is definitely not tough when everybody can buy top D equip - BEFORE he reaches lvl 40, when there is an NPC that gives you a buffs and even soulshots are automated...

Ive played l2 since taiwan closed beta, and i also know how c1 work. Ive spent many 1000 of hours playing on gustin with friends. And as you said ...Lineage 2 chronicle 1 is a game about full groups of no-grade equipped players conquering elven ruins. But where are these players? thats my point right here. to increase the population something has to change, you will never ever find ever a "3 man group" for the cruma tower even. Like a said the sever itself is right now well balanced for the player that are here and not for the potential players which are interested to come. Infact i cant decide what u guys will do, prolly nothing but a try is never a failure. If nothing will change within 2 month or so you sill can bring back the old setup form the server.

[smeli]

Ive played l2 since taiwan closed beta, and i also know how c1 work.

may you still have the client of closed beta?

[smeli]

But where are these players? thats my point right here. to increase the population something has to change

various features to the c1 game are being added a lot of year
but players do not interesting how game developing

so no rates would help here


also just ask what players knowing about c1
I had asked. judging by the answers I WOULD NOT PLAY C1!!!!
of course this awful knowledge is wrong, but players not going to update it at all, no matter what features will be implemented

in other hand they believing other players, the younger the better
most believable players is 14 years old, no mater what he says, he is most believable one
and no matter when it says, even after 10 years he is still most believable one

[rio]

no sorry i dont have the client anymore. I didnt expect to play the game for me than 10 years anyway

[babalina]

I would say that 1x is the best, because this game is not about PVP only (at least not C1).
at 1x, you would have for sure much more mats, at lest the basic ones. at 8x you just have more drop chances, but the amount is the same. meanwhile your XP increases 8x faster, so you will get less materials comparing to 1x.

those with more experience in 1x servers , please correct me. I never played one, lowest was a 4x server.

[soulhunter]

best server is c1 x1 no buff no dualbox......

reason....

all player will need something from other... buffs, spoil help, craft, etc... so all pll will be conected with some1.......

low rates for make it longer to reach max lvl.....

so no1 will expe fast... thats mean more ppl will be online why they dont reach so fast max lvl and leave

(tampoco hay q negar q la gente se esta llendo... se fueron muchos... negar algo o esconderlo hace q uno no lo tenga en cuenta a la hora de tomar desiciones y quizas por mas q uno tome la mejor desicion, por algun punto ignorado la mejor desicion pierde efectividad).


but all this is posible if the server population is midle-high.

if low population in the server the ppl get borred... lvl, farming, crafting....... u can do it for a some time.... but after that u get borred .. thas happen to me....

[babalina]

please tell me if at 1x you get more mats comparing to a 8x (at same char lvl).

PS: I did that for more than one year on this server (or the Russian one) and not got bored.