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[PurpleSwaN]

1st:remove from aa buffer(i wont fight again about this but at least remove renewal/vampire(at least renewal because its unbalance)

2nd:add vampiric rage to shilien elder(why npc buffer has vr?)dont tell me if you give shilien elder vr its unbalance but npc buffer can have vr and not be unbalance,

3d: NPC prophets berserker spirit is c2+ skill and give speed(c1 bers spirit DONT give speed)problem is:it is unbalance for archers(they have too much speed)forcing me as a dagger to get berserker spirit just to be able to catch archers)NPC PROPHET has berserker spiritC2+ while my prophet has C1 berserker spirit,change npc berserker spirit to actual c1 berserker spirit it may not seem important to you but since you want to have balance server you should change it,


at last i dont understand why npc buffer has c3 and 58+ skills like bless the soul lvl6?my prophet goes up to lvl 3,why npc buffer have lvl 6,my prophet dont learn greater might/greater shield or bless the shield lvl 5,either add skills up to 74lvl or change everything to c1 max 58lvl skills,example:im in lair with my clan and we have buffs from our clan prophet,then enemy clan arrive with npc buffer<is this balance?i think no,thnx

[Lineage2C1-Staff]

#remove renewal/vampire
Done please next time give excatly name of skills and explain why you think imba. (this time i checked myself)
think that i forggot many thinks about L2

#add vampiric rage to shilien elder
No because is a C2 skill i can't radomly add c2 skills why yes

#(why npc buffer has vr?)
Why is imported from other chronicle

#c1 bers spirit DONT give speed
Done, also the rest of buffs from other chronicles
i didnt touched yet Npc buffer because is a nosense balance him if he is temporal

#At last i dont understand why npc buffer has c3 and 58+ skills like bless the soul lvl6?

Why is imported from other chronicle

PDT dont bump old topics that contain information we already know. dont needed and be polite with admins or we dont repply anymore you

[PurpleSwaN]

thnx,i stop bump,this time i was polite;Dthnx for changes

[PurpleSwaN]

plz remove dance of siren(is c5+ skill)and song of vitality(swordsinger learns it at 66lvl so i guess c2+ skill)thnx

[ziO]

Hello For me such a idea like removing things (example vr from npc buffer) is stupid. WHY? my answer is simple. It's not fair for new players. Person which gived you idea about removing those things alredy reached high lvl and top items. I saw ppl in LOA farming solo, or max 2 3 persons - without healers and that mean he had to use vr.They farmed things not only coz of buff but im sure it support a lot . So i don't see any sense witch deleting things which existed for a long time and were used for old players. Gm added alredy some common things to balance character so what's problem to keep vr buff? BTW deleting speed effect from berserker means not only archers will be slower.. Ppl always cry that char playing by them sux and they will do everything to make them powerful.. tank also can say that all chars are faster than he.. AND dont forget that u can also use slowing effects or dash.. I would like to see more opinions - MOST pple who didnt reach 60+ and top items.Coz for them left nothing more like killing weaker players. IF U WANT PLAY WITCH THOSE CHANGES MAKE SERVER WIPE . IT WILL BE FAIR FOR ALL PLAYERS and u will have my dear server c1 from you dreams...

[PurpleSwaN]

i play here since first day i have b grade gear and i havent farmed for more than 1h in lair,if you read more carefully i didnt ask to remove vr.
.i agree with puting vr back it helps low lvls xp faster(while it fucks up healer classes who look for xp)

berserker spirit is unbalanced, c1 song of wind gives +20speed,so i can reach 230 speed(i can at least kite half raid bosses)there is a reason why berserker sprit in c1 dont give speed..plus its unbalance to dagger vs archer
even that i am plains walker(less unbalance than th for example)daggers have huge nerf allready and forcing them to buff with bers spirit just kills them
and btw no class will be slower to other, all class go -6speed so it stays the same

I want to farm items for my clan and friends too,i didnt ask this changes because i want to slow down other ppl,i asked because in my point of view they are unbalanced


Ps:possible fix make buffs last 1h and 20-30mins(+20mins to have extra time to rest for hp) and reduse potion weight,
dont rush finish the game,and btw the clan that farmed b grade(vietnam)even if they hadnt vr they would use a healer to farm or use ranged attacks so i dont think its unbalanced to anyone just change your strategy

[ziO]

Obout vr> for melee characters playing without vr means: u waste more adena for potions than u earn.Ofc u can invite healer to party ( earlier u'll die in front of pc than u'll find healer with similar lvl ;P ) . For me it's simple: we shouldnt mix chronicles together... adding one thing we will unbalance other one. So here should be decision about chronicle . At the beginnings of server ofc not in the middle when half server reach smth in easier way.

Yea whole clan of archers and healers... ;P but u're right i can always make new few boxes to not die there. I'm going to make archer and healer to gear up my main :>

[PurpleSwaN]

i have 2 bishops in my clan,i see other clans with bishops too,join a clan,mmog=mass multiplayer online game,dont play solo....after all i agree with you about vampiric rage,since lack of healers,and since vr dont make pvp unbalance i think is ok,lets make a poll about that,

theres lot more than 30ppl:P

[ziO]

yea mass multiplayer with 30 online. dont be funny. I just want play in free time and not search healer to kill mobs for example at cementary. And like i said we cannot mix chronicles coz it makes game unbalanced.Going sleep gn (i have enough changes for today )

[ramze]

One day Npc buffer will be removed, so what then ? Make a wipe ? Because its not fair for new players ?

[WormVie]

i think we should keep full buff for new player (maybe below 52)
it will help them to rush their lv and join our battle

[WormVie]

@PurpleSwaN: why dont u support from the beginning? u wait for ur lv and now u post this threat. is is fair and balance?

[Zmrok]

As Admin said, NPC buffer is "temporary".
One month has gone since server start.
So, screw that npc buffers, it's time to remove them.

[PurpleSwaN]

Wormvie....i talked with the gm about this,he didnt removed the buffs,and now i posted it,i guess you ""cry"" about berserker spirit;DDD

[Kaluisu]

No more VR ? after all we are playing C1 - C3, i dont thinks it changes much, it jurs for lvl meles.. anyway

No more VR = All players will gonna be Archers

[ziO]

U should think about remove 1hour dances and songs from donator buffer...It makes pve and pvp unbalance.

[kingtolson]

WHEN VR REMOVE,GAME is unbalance cause mage dont need VR FOR EXPING,BUT IF YOU TANK YOU NEED VR SO MUCH.
ON THE 1 CHRONCAL PALADIN IS PEACE OF SHIT(I AM PALADIN) THAT FIRST AND WITHOUT VR PALADIN ITS BIG PEACE OF SHIT.
I,WE ARE NEED VR SO MUCH.

VR COME BACK!

[soulhunter]

WHEN VR REMOVE,GAME is unbalance cause mage dont need VR FOR EXPING,BUT IF YOU TANK YOU NEED VR SO MUCH.
ON THE 1 CHRONCAL PALADIN IS PEACE OF SHIT(I AM PALADIN) THAT FIRST AND WITHOUT VR PALADIN ITS BIG PEACE OF SHIT.
I,WE ARE NEED VR SO MUCH.

VR COME BACK!

so mages no need vr??? yes thats right.. but he needs mana.... so why you can have VR and kill all the nigth without 1 potion and stoping ..........the mages must rest..... so or delete VR and tanks must rest too or let VR and but mana potions...... my opinion ... VR back and Mana potions ..... no more x2 Expe...... so u have good buff and can kill put u need more time to lvl up.....

[kingtolson]

axaxa if a mage give potions they are get 75 at one day, mage killed mobs faster them paladin and other tanks,but without vr they can exping but tanks cant!

[kingtolson]

MANA AND HP ITS DIFERENT!!!
IN THE PLACE WHERE I AM EXPING YESTERDAY MOBS KILL ME TODAY. I AM DIE/ HP NOT MP/ I CANT EXPING CAUSE I DIE!