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#1 Zimzum

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:24 AM

Hi, i'm new to this server and first of all i would like to congratulate the people that administrate it, it's a marvel:).Pls u guys keep up the good work!! But due to the fact that dagger classes suffered some changes i would like to answer a few questions, and i hope that the staff menbers,or older players would be kind enough to have some decent answers for me:)Thanks in advance.

Right now i have an Abyss Walker and i would like to know a few things related to that class.

1) First of all i would like to know if the AW still has the advantage of + Crit Power passive skills over the TH (as it has on the official server and usually on all the servers)
2) I would like to know if the Might Mortal dagger S.A. is working properly on Demon Dagger (that is...if it's implemented).Cause i've read on the Forum that all the usefull S.A s where removed due to weird complains.
3) I've noticed that the daggers are quite nerfed, from the skill MP cost with is + 40% - 50% i guess(it's just a guess, correct me if i'm wrong - i think is a little too much if u ask me smile.gif), to the reusage of skills witch is also + 10% - 20% more , and also the anti dagger gear witch can be bought from the shop. Is this an heavily anti dagger server on a pro dagger Chronicle?smile.gif
4) I've also noticed a strage casting speed on skills like Hex and Power Break witch normally are casted really quick, well here they are nerfed i guess 'cause the casting time even with Blessed Shots take as much as Drain Health Skill for example.

I guess for now, those would be the questions that would need urgent answers.

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#2 Hexadijus

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 10:07 AM

Yes, daggers are quite nerfed, even if they were OP, they're nerfed too much. BTW, AW is skill-based, so its even harder to farm than with TH.
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 11:34 AM

QUOTE (Hexadijus @ Apr 2 2013, 10:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, daggers are quite nerfed, even if they were OP, they're nerfed too much. BTW, AW is skill-based, so its even harder to farm than with TH.


Interesting view...but i don't think that daggers, or any other class for that matter where OP. The game is designed so every class has a role...asasins must asasinate(i'm thinking about C4 when landing chances of skills where a bad joke,and from C4 the downfall of real l2 started, just imagine a class trained from birth for a specific purpose, and when the time comes, it's an epic failure:))).I think that the skill and the adaptability of the player has a lot to do...The players that used the chosen classes propper where few in C1, u can't say that an f1, f2 player can ever be OP.For exmple the mages have lots of skills, so a lot of options...but 80% ( maybe more) of players that choose mages are f1,f2 players...C1 till C3 where the best and the purest Lineage 2.
Indeed Aw is superior to TH witch in my opinion was a "forced" created class (just like the HE)...i mean take an 43 CON race and give to it, all the possible passives from the other Light Armour dd-ers(Boost Atack Speed from Tyrant,Crit Chance from PW,Crit Power from AW) in the game...that's kinda weird isn't it?

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 12:54 PM

Actually AW is probably worst dagger class you can get. Because of low con your getting raped by every char with stun. Low hp makes you vulnurable to getting bursted down fast by nukers. If they were dyes than yeah, AW because of hex (if it was working correct) and freezing strike would be best daggers in c1-c3 but as it is now the big strenght that delfs got is useless on him, and low con means hes unviable in pvp smile.gif PW is supperior dagger class on our server because of highest movement speed, and decent con. As for th, low movement speed combined with high dash reuse renders him a bad dagger in my opinion.


Anyway i belive that low cast speed on hex was terrible mistake by server admins. Without viable hex debuff delf fighters are getting outmatched in every teritory: da > sk because of the stun + panther, PW>TH>AW because of the low con, SR>HE>PR because of low con (pr is probably most viable delf fighter because of high str that is very usefull on archer but still low con nerfs him too much).

Side note can anyone tell me why sk nukes got only 600 range ? Its just dumb, only advantage which sk had over other tanks got smashed to the ground... What do you prefer panther and a always landing shield stun or 3 nukes with range so low that every nuker or archer can kite you ? biggrin.gif R.I.P. sk
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 10:18 PM

QUOTE (Fen @ Apr 3 2013, 01:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually AW is probably worst dagger class you can get. Because of low con your getting raped by every char with stun. Low hp makes you vulnurable to getting bursted down fast by nukers. If they were dyes than yeah, AW because of hex (if it was working correct) and freezing strike would be best daggers in c1-c3 but as it is now the big strenght that delfs got is useless on him, and low con means hes unviable in pvp smile.gif PW is supperior dagger class on our server because of highest movement speed, and decent con. As for th, low movement speed combined with high dash reuse renders him a bad dagger in my opinion.


Anyway i belive that low cast speed on hex was terrible mistake by server admins. Without viable hex debuff delf fighters are getting outmatched in every teritory: da > sk because of the stun + panther, PW>TH>AW because of the low con, SR>HE>PR because of low con (pr is probably most viable delf fighter because of high str that is very usefull on archer but still low con nerfs him too much).

Side note can anyone tell me why sk nukes got only 600 range ? Its just dumb, only advantage which sk had over other tanks got smashed to the ground... What do you prefer panther and a always landing shield stun or 3 nukes with range so low that every nuker or archer can kite you ? biggrin.gif R.I.P. sk


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 10:28 PM

Ok...that was a decent answer thanks:)As far as i'm concerned PW is a better dagger in later chronicles, anyway got better in c2,c3, but in C1 on a normal set up server, u must know how to use that class properly, to have fun and to own the field:)Aw is not so stun affected....i mean i get stunned...a lot...but when you get do deliver your skills on a mage or other light armoured classes they just die.Of course if it has any skills altered, the class uses it's purpose and gets too weak to deliver!!!Aw has low con but enought to deliver the high ammounts of dmg that he can deliver....if u cast Hex in 10-15 seconds inthe middle of the fight the class is destrojed by the server set-ups....So yeah... i get your answer:)...Thanks, i'll probably make a tyrant than:)
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