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#1 Kiefer

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 09:21 AM

Hello,

We made this topic to ask about your opinion about the server, so we can know on what to concentrate our work. Please, everybody say what he likes/dislikes. Also, suggest what we should change.

We are so little now, this server is planned to be much bigger and it will be! Everybody can help us grow by telling about it to your friends, advertising it on gaming forums, voting daily, put it on your MSN/Skype. We are the only international C1 server. This means a lot. smile.gif

Every your reply will be seen and considered.

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#2 Strengthened

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 01:46 PM

Almost everything is fine, except one thing for me.
When i exp solo i am quickly bored. When i go PT it's funnier but it consumes too much EXP points.
My suggestion is to raise the pt exp rate, so people will make partys, community will get closer and everybody shall be happier tongue.gif
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Posted 27 October 2011 - 02:23 PM

Yeah I agree, party EXP helps to stabilish a greater community between players
in my opinion just being something like 2x would already helps a lot

I disagree the dual boxing for farming allowing just 1 more char, in my oppinion could be unlimited too,
i dont see problem in that, sometimes i need a healer and a mage to up another char
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Posted 27 October 2011 - 03:43 PM

QUOTE (Mart @ Oct 27 2011, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah I agree, party EXP helps to stabilish a greater community between players
in my opinion just being something like 2x would already helps a lot

I disagree the dual boxing for farming allowing just 1 more char, in my oppinion could be unlimited too,
i dont see problem in that, sometimes i need a healer and a mage to up another char


Yeah, 2x party rate is pretty fine, but i don't really agree with multibox unlimiting.
I think it is enough to have 1 box for buffer for example, if u want log mage and healer yet it's gonna be kinda nonsense, you can do raid boss alone then >.<
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Posted 27 October 2011 - 03:48 PM

You saying the party XP is x1? Once I get back to home, I will talk with GMJulio about making it x1.5 or so. That's a good idea indeed. Any others?
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Posted 27 October 2011 - 04:18 PM

I vote for x2 tongue.gif
If you're not sure make official voting so players can decide biggrin.gif
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Posted 27 October 2011 - 04:53 PM

I noticed that the skills Vampiric Rage and Chant of Vampire are available. I could be wrong but i thought the server was c1? Those skills were not added till C2. I would LOVE it if they were removed smile.gif they take away from the need for a active SMART healer.


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Posted 27 October 2011 - 05:48 PM

well, I have more than one suggestion:

1. it was implemented before, now it is not anymore: adena drop chance 100%

2. I don't understand why, if a server is published as being 7x, not all rates are 7x.
this was many times discussed, I think that it is a "hot" topic on server development side and it created a lot of trouble for them (developers) and for us (the players). maybe if you raise this topic again, you will touch some sensitive strings. but you please make another proposal in this direction: even drop amount, spoil chance, spoil amount, quest rewards should be 7x.
my reason (I know that I repeat myself): we grow 7x times faster (comparing to 1x server), but, if drop amount is 2x, have 3x less adena and mats. which is not nice or fair.

because these rates were higher before and they lowered the "amount", I have another proposal (improvement): the amount should be 7x just for adena and mats. the full items, like armors, recipes and weapons should stay as it is right now. it even can be 1x.

3. I don't understand why class change quest items are in shop. ok, if this was decided long time ago, at least, they should be more expensive.

4. I would expect that at any time of the day at least 1 GM is present. I know that there is not much to do here because of low number of players and so...so let's have it like this: every GM should log in at least once/day and check the server status. we saw that sometimes server needs restart. and there were 5-8 hours in the past when people could not play.
events should be done every weekend, each day (Sunday and Saturday)

5. regarding the server main page: it is the first impression a new player will have and, trust me, it means a lot for many people. it does not have a good format and necessary information a lineage player is used with.
- first thing is remove parts which are not working
- second: update the information like server rates/features - most important for new players and for us. we need to be informed
- third: put the right information in the right place
- fourth: Events is a link to the forum - NOK
I can help regarding the structure which main page should have. Just ask me, and I will do this (create a more friendly structure - it is up to you to implement it)

6. Forum is a mess. People always will post in the wrong section. You need forum administrators to do their best to keep it clean and organized.
And when some one moves a topic, it should not still be present in his original place. Move it completely.
If some one uses other language than the one required in the specific section, just delete his message. (some people which speak English just get carried away with the wave and continue discussion in Spanish, which is rude).
I do not see the need of "Other Language" section. You will say that not all people speak English. Well, if the server is international.....you could ask forum administrators to put in their description that they speak other language, and those who need something, could send a private message to them. believe me, I have lot of friend who learned English this way (just English language forums).

well, enough for today...

even if you don't consider the above, at least I said my point. people should do this more often - it means that they care and get involved.
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Posted 27 October 2011 - 05:54 PM

well, fist of all there is another topic where you can address this: Opinions/Suggestions/Criticism.
if you started this before that one, I ask a forum moderator to include also this in that topic.

seconds, this server uses some features of C2. it would not be fair to remove only those 2 and leave other C2 skills inside.
and to do that there is a lot of work. other are the priorities of the server right now.


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Posted 27 October 2011 - 05:56 PM

QUOTE (babalina @ Oct 27 2011, 05:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
well, I have more than one suggestion:

1. it was implemented before, now it is not anymore: adena drop chance 100%

2. I don't understand why, if a server is published as being 7x, not all rates are 7x.
this was many times discussed, I think that it is a "hot" topic on server development side and it created a lot of trouble for them (developers) and for us (the players). maybe if you raise this topic again, you will touch some sensitive strings. but you please make another proposal in this direction: even drop amount, spoil chance, spoil amount, quest rewards should be 7x.
my reason (I know that I repeat myself): we grow 7x times faster (comparing to 1x server), but, if drop amount is 2x, have 3x less adena and mats. which is not nice or fair.

because these rates were higher before and they lowered the "amount", I have another proposal (improvement): the amount should be 7x just for adena and mats. the full items, like armors, recipes and weapons should stay as it is right now. it even can be 1x.

3. I don't understand why class change quest items are in shop. ok, if this was decided long time ago, at least, they should be more expensive.

4. I would expect that at any time of the day at least 1 GM is present. I know that there is not much to do here because of low number of players and so...so let's have it like this: every GM should log in at least once/day and check the server status. we saw that sometimes server needs restart. and there were 5-8 hours in the past when people could not play.
events should be done every weekend, each day (Sunday and Saturday)

5. regarding the server main page: it is the first impression a new player will have and, trust me, it means a lot for many people. it does not have a good format and necessary information a lineage player is used with.
- first thing is remove parts which are not working
- second: update the information like server rates/features - most important for new players and for us. we need to be informed
- third: put the right information in the right place
- fourth: Events is a link to the forum - NOK
I can help regarding the structure which main page should have. Just ask me, and I will do this (create a more friendly structure - it is up to you to implement it)

6. Forum is a mess. People always will post in the wrong section. You need forum administrators to do their best to keep it clean and organized.
And when some one moves a topic, it should not still be present in his original place. Move it completely.
If some one uses other language than the one required in the specific section, just delete his message. (some people which speak English just get carried away with the wave and continue discussion in Spanish, which is rude).
I do not see the need of "Other Language" section. You will say that not all people speak English. Well, if the server is international.....you could ask forum administrators to put in their description that they speak other language, and those who need something, could send a private message to them. believe me, I have lot of friend who learned English this way (just English language forums).

well, enough for today...

even if you don't consider the above, at least I said my point. people should do this more often - it means that they care and get involved.


1. Probably Julio has to answer you about that.
2. Julio
3. If the adena drop chance changes on 100%, their price will increase also.
4. We do our best. We can't quit our schools,jobs,universities.
5. From the first minute I'm repeating the same to Julio. I hope it will change soon.
6. I agree that it is a mess, it has to be re-constructed.

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 07:05 PM

QUOTE (babalina @ Oct 27 2011, 05:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
well, I have more than one suggestion:

1. it was implemented before, now it is not anymore: adena drop chance 100%

2. I don't understand why, if a server is published as being 7x, not all rates are 7x.
this was many times discussed, I think that it is a "hot" topic on server development side and it created a lot of trouble for them (developers) and for us (the players). maybe if you raise this topic again, you will touch some sensitive strings. but you please make another proposal in this direction: even drop amount, spoil chance, spoil amount, quest rewards should be 7x.
my reason (I know that I repeat myself): we grow 7x times faster (comparing to 1x server), but, if drop amount is 2x, have 3x less adena and mats. which is not nice or fair.

because these rates were higher before and they lowered the "amount", I have another proposal (improvement): the amount should be 7x just for adena and mats. the full items, like armors, recipes and weapons should stay as it is right now. it even can be 1x.

3. I don't understand why class change quest items are in shop. ok, if this was decided long time ago, at least, they should be more expensive.

4. I would expect that at any time of the day at least 1 GM is present. I know that there is not much to do here because of low number of players and so...so let's have it like this: every GM should log in at least once/day and check the server status. we saw that sometimes server needs restart. and there were 5-8 hours in the past when people could not play.
events should be done every weekend, each day (Sunday and Saturday)

5. regarding the server main page: it is the first impression a new player will have and, trust me, it means a lot for many people. it does not have a good format and necessary information a lineage player is used with.
- first thing is remove parts which are not working
- second: update the information like server rates/features - most important for new players and for us. we need to be informed
- third: put the right information in the right place
- fourth: Events is a link to the forum - NOK
I can help regarding the structure which main page should have. Just ask me, and I will do this (create a more friendly structure - it is up to you to implement it)

6. Forum is a mess. People always will post in the wrong section. You need forum administrators to do their best to keep it clean and organized.
And when some one moves a topic, it should not still be present in his original place. Move it completely.
If some one uses other language than the one required in the specific section, just delete his message. (some people which speak English just get carried away with the wave and continue discussion in Spanish, which is rude).
I do not see the need of "Other Language" section. You will say that not all people speak English. Well, if the server is international.....you could ask forum administrators to put in their description that they speak other language, and those who need something, could send a private message to them. believe me, I have lot of friend who learned English this way (just English language forums).

well, enough for today...

even if you don't consider the above, at least I said my point. people should do this more often - it means that they care and get involved.


1 its ok, i could increase in next update.
2 all rates are x7, quest x5 quest arent exactly x5 some quest rates are x13, for example it have: quest drop, onetime adena, repeateable
exp and etc..
spoil rate x7 , drop rate x7 so you have x7 chance to get more items.
imagine x7 amount, skeleton tracker = 66 animal bone
a monster x3 life could give like 13 stones of puriti and etc..
anyway why i dont change amount ? cause it causes the spoil bug and is not necesary i think because i see cosmical ammounts of mats in
players inventory
3 To me doesnt matter really. but other players could have different opinion
4 Last time server crash and when it "autostarted npc get a error cause agit that night not npc sad.gif i was sleeping
i think that gm are active, and btw im recruiting more. i tell you is hard find peple like kiefer... much "wannabeadmin"
5 I was very busy recently but we could update webpage, at the moment webage isnt the most beatifull but work.
yes event is a link to forum and? before was a iframe with a php that shows all event forums but i like the simple desing

is necesary be so negative?


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Posted 27 October 2011 - 07:19 PM

x2 on this party ... +1000
would have to put 5min song and Danser not affect anything in the gameplay of the game ... announce the server in hopzone haci more people come an hour ....... and anything else I will be adding more excuses when I remember

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 07:41 PM

After a discussion with GMJulio, we are ready to give you an update.

The website is going to be changed. We are speaking with different designers, looking for templates, etc. It's just a matter of time.
The forum will also be changed a bit now.
The party XP will be checked and increased, if it's x1.

Julio is preparing an update on the patch, which will include some other things also.

Thank you for your opinions/suggestions/criticisms. Please continue the good job. We really need to hear what you think.
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#14 Strengthened

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 07:46 PM

I am also worried about night lags... especially at time 23:00+ (GMT+1) lag starts to be heavy, many players feel it.
I don't know if you are able to do something about it, but it's important to mention it.
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Posted 27 October 2011 - 07:49 PM

QUOTE (Strengthened @ Oct 27 2011, 07:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am also worried about night lags... especially at time 23:00+ (GMT+1) lag starts to be heavy, many players feel it.
I don't know if you are able to do something about it, but it's good to mention it.


We just speak about it with Julio, lol. =) He said he will take a look at it, but let's also see after the new patch is released, if they will still exist.
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Posted 27 October 2011 - 08:23 PM

Sure, no hurry, just posted to be sure that u dont forget about this case smile.gif
When is the new patch realese planned ?
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Posted 27 October 2011 - 11:13 PM

Try to look at the issue of lagg that body is more often
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Posted 28 October 2011 - 02:25 AM

QUOTE (Kiefer @ Oct 27 2011, 05:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You saying the party XP is x1? Once I get back to home, I will talk with GMJulio about making it x1.5 or so.


While no bonus xp at all often looks like a penalty for leveling in party, x2 makes it almost obligatory to join a group. Forcing solo-oriented professions and lonely wolves to level in party seems just wrong to me. And x1.5 is a bit generous, considering the fact that a good party setup makes mobs extermination more than twice as fast. We are talking about bringing community together, not dual-boxing, am I right? I'd say x1.25 is ok. And +0.10 per additional player like x1.45 for 4-players party 'til the cap of x1.50 (for 5+) but that may be hard to implement.
And no, as a player I would only benefit from x1.50 because I always level in party. I am just not sure it is fair. Buffer's life is designed to be hard after all and you are even allowed to dual-box to get around this issue. Last statement refers to an argument not mentioned in this thread but related to the topic.

This, of course, is just my personal opinion.

I also disagree with idea of removing language forums. Some people just can't talk and understand english well enough. Getting the only way of asking an in-game non-technical question from them is unlikely to help our online. We are looking for ways to attract new players, not to scare em off, aren't we?
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Posted 28 October 2011 - 04:06 AM

i agree about the language area, should stay...
and about party, i know that has dual box and i'm the one that lvl up with dual boxing xD
but i have a lot of friends that play with me too, and no BONUS is being very penalty
increasing the rate 2x wouldn't change the things too much, but will increase the community among the players
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Posted 28 October 2011 - 05:10 AM

QUOTE (All @ Oct 28 2011, 02:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
While no bonus xp at all often looks like a penalty for leveling in party, x2 makes it almost obligatory to join a group. Forcing solo-oriented professions and lonely wolves to level in party seems just wrong to me. And x1.5 is a bit generous, considering the fact that a good party setup makes mobs extermination more than twice as fast. We are talking about bringing community together, not dual-boxing, am I right? I'd say x1.25 is ok. And +0.10 per additional player like x1.45 for 4-players party 'til the cap of x1.50 (for 5+) but that may be hard to implement.
And no, as a player I would only benefit from x1.50 because I always level in party. I am just not sure it is fair. Buffer's life is designed to be hard after all and you are even allowed to dual-box to get around this issue. Last statement refers to an argument not mentioned in this thread but related to the topic.

This, of course, is just my personal opinion.

I also disagree with idea of removing language forums. Some people just can't talk and understand english well enough. Getting the only way of asking an in-game non-technical question from them is unlikely to help our online. We are looking for ways to attract new players, not to scare em off, aren't we?


I like your idea.We will see what we can do about it.
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